The Buddhist view of self is very similar to Hume's. Buddhists thought everything is temporary. Buddhists say everything in the world keeps changing therefore so does the self. So there can't be any real self. This does seem pretty smart and true.
Albert G. I disagree with the Buddhist concept of self. They believe that every aspect of life / the universe is constantly changing. This basic concept is understandable, but to say a person isn't the same because they change is wrong. Since they use the analogy of a flame passing from candle to candle to express this idea, i will also. Perhaps the self can be a flame, but i have yet to change candles. My 'self' is tied to this body. If they meant flame and candle in reference to reincarnation, how can i be the same 'self' if i cannot remember it in the next life?
I agree with the buddhist concept of the self because our perception of ourselves depends on our experiences throuhgout our whole life. If everything around us is constantly changing and our experiences are constantly changing, our perception of ourselves will change as well
I agree with Albert G., to disagree, he has a very good concept in his analogy of the original analogy, and I've wondered the same thing myself. Give him an A, hopefully he remembers it in his "next life".
Although we do gradually change overtime we are still the same person. We go through an evolution in life, getting bigger, taller, stronger, wiser etc. but we are still the same person at 55 years old that we were at 5 months old. The only difference is that we have evolved or devolved in some cases. So I can't entirely agree with the Buddhists sense of self.
The Buddhist concept of the no-self self is interesting. I can understand in some sense what religious principles are behind this view, in my opinion like humility, selflessness, open-mindedness. I think what the Buddha was trying to teach was that there was no sense of individuality, or some sort of uniqueness in each person that makes us all different from one another. Looking at the view in context to his other teachings, I think the goal of the Buddha was to try to instill that essentially every human being is the same, that the concept of a "personality" was really arbitrary. I think the idea of "self", or the ego or personality would get in the way of concentrating on his teachings. I disagree with it, just my two cents.
I am a bit indecisive or in other words half and half about the buddhist concept in that we all change at some point but depending on the extent of change is where I contradict the Buddhist idea of self. The Buddhist concept correlates with the idea that there is no permanent self but constant process and change. Yes, we grow from one stage to another but that does not necessarily means that we are not the same person. Based on experiences, chain of events and so forth some persons are vulnerable to the idea of change but that does not say that the past self is still not within. I believe in relevance to this concept, once you reach the age or level where personalities and individuality builds changes are formed but the (soul,mind and body) is still constant. We might not act now as we did when we were twelve but we are still the same just with additional qualities and maturity. So basically I believe we as individuals do in fact change at some point in life where we go through different phases and transitions(key word: "change") but at the same time before all of this there is already a "makeup" crafted in all of us that makes us different but is in general our permanent self whether you like it are not. We were born this "way" and will remain till the end of the road(death).
I liked Alex D's comment that the idea of "self" would get in the way of concentrating on Buddah's teachings. The Buddah's view of humility, selflessness, and open-mindedness are qualities that are extremely difficult in a society today. In today's society, there is a big importance on individualism, as in be yourself and don't conform.
I agree with Albert G. He does prove a point in questioning how we can be the same when we reincarnate when we can't remember anything of our past life. I believe he did a good job explaining why he disagreed with the Buddhist concept of self.
I agree with with Albert.G because he doesn't believe in Buddhist's explanation about the self. Self is not constantly changing. We just change the view of seeing things, but our self, our beliefs, and values are pretty much the same. he also gives an example of flame and candle. he explains why he is disagree with the concept of Buddhist view of self. His grade should be B+
The Buddhist view of self is very similar to Hume's. Buddhists thought everything is temporary. Buddhists say everything in the world keeps changing therefore so does the self. So there can't be any real self. This does seem pretty smart and true.
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ReplyDeleteI disagree with the Buddhist concept of self. They believe that every aspect of life / the universe is constantly changing. This basic concept is understandable, but to say a person isn't the same because they change is wrong. Since they use the analogy of a flame passing from candle to candle to express this idea, i will also. Perhaps the self can be a flame, but i have yet to change candles. My 'self' is tied to this body. If they meant flame and candle in reference to reincarnation, how can i be the same 'self' if i cannot remember it in the next life?
I agree with the buddhist concept of the self because our perception of ourselves depends on our experiences throuhgout our whole life. If everything around us is constantly changing and our experiences are constantly changing, our perception of ourselves will change as well
ReplyDeleteI agree with Albert G., to disagree, he has a very good concept in his analogy of the original analogy, and I've wondered the same thing myself. Give him an A, hopefully he remembers it in his "next life".
ReplyDeleteAlthough we do gradually change overtime we are still the same person. We go through an evolution in life, getting bigger, taller, stronger, wiser etc. but we are still the same person at 55 years old that we were at 5 months old. The only difference is that we have evolved or devolved in some cases. So I can't entirely agree with the Buddhists sense of self.
ReplyDeleteWisdom changes our actions and alter our thoughts thus it changes who we are.
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ReplyDeleteThe Buddhist concept of the no-self self is interesting. I can understand in some sense what religious principles are behind this view, in my opinion like humility, selflessness, open-mindedness. I think what the Buddha was trying to teach was that there was no sense of individuality, or some sort of uniqueness in each person that makes us all different from one another. Looking at the view in context to his other teachings, I think the goal of the Buddha was to try to instill that essentially every human being is the same, that the concept of a "personality" was really arbitrary. I think the idea of "self", or the ego or personality would get in the way of concentrating on his teachings. I disagree with it, just my two cents.
ReplyDeleteI am a bit indecisive or in other words half and half about the buddhist concept in that we all change at some point but depending on the extent of change is where I contradict the Buddhist idea of self. The Buddhist concept correlates with the idea that there is no permanent self but constant process and change. Yes, we grow from one stage to another but that does not necessarily means that we are not the same person. Based on experiences, chain of events and so forth some persons are vulnerable to the idea of change but that does not say that the past self is still not within. I believe in relevance to this concept, once you reach the age or level where personalities and individuality builds changes are formed but the (soul,mind and body) is still constant. We might not act now as we did when we were twelve but we are still the same just with additional qualities and maturity. So basically I believe we as individuals do in fact change at some point in life where we go through different phases and transitions(key word: "change") but at the same time before all of this there is already a "makeup" crafted in all of us that makes us different but is in general our permanent self whether you like it are not. We were born this "way" and will remain till the end of the road(death).
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I liked Alex D's comment that the idea of "self" would get in the way of concentrating on Buddah's teachings. The Buddah's view of humility, selflessness, and open-mindedness are qualities that are extremely difficult in a society today. In today's society, there is a big importance on individualism, as in be yourself and don't conform.
ReplyDeleteI agree with Albert G. He does prove a point in questioning how we can be the same when we reincarnate when we can't remember anything of our past life. I believe he did a good job explaining why he disagreed with the Buddhist concept of self.
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ReplyDeleteI agree with with Albert.G because he doesn't believe in Buddhist's explanation about the self. Self is not constantly changing. We just change the view of seeing things, but our self, our beliefs, and values are pretty much the same. he also gives an example of flame and candle. he explains why he is disagree with the concept of Buddhist view of self. His grade should be B+
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